Capote.

Now thats a movie.

A vivid study of human psyche.

I though that Brokeback Mountain was a little gem of a film (not as good as at least 3 of Ang Lee's previous movies) but still a believeable, complex, haunting tale.

Let's start by exploding the homosexual/hetrosexual dichotomy. It may be contraversial but I believe (and foucault would agree) that sexuality is not gender specific. And this film was more than just a gay love story. As Kjen pointed out at the end Enis was a highly confused character (particually confused by the experience at Brokeback which was started by the more sexually certain Jack). The characters were realistic and compelling- the character of Enis who has pushed people away for the whole of his life was particually interesting and tragic.

Ang Lee likes to highlight the force of nature on our being (as in the Ice Storm) and Brokeback mountain itself played a big part in the plot of the movie. Indeed, it is the last shot of the movie. So Matt's point about playboy is very witty but does not apply to film (essentially a visual medium). Some of the camera shots were breathtaking and moved nicely from vast mountainous landcsapes to human moments. The sex scenes were far from over the top and were not offputting.

So I totally agree with Loir: the characters were fascinating, the camerawork was beautiful and the result was a film that had poetic things to say about humanity and nature (and humannature). I was touched and haunted by it.

ps re: oscars, I probably liked it a bit more than crash and a bit less than Munich. But these are all good films.

pps Kjen I would be very interested to know your views (if you have time today).

I wish I knew how to quit you, jc.

[quote user="Arikan" post="41699"]If you read past the first six words, Lori explains why she loved the film.

Or am I missing something here?[/quote]
sorry about me being narrow minded but when someone explains she disagrees with the ones who didnt like the movie or says people were sobbing afterwards that is not an exact explanation of why they have liked it to me. I hoped you had more attention. you are disappointing me Arika... (and you are at all not disappointing me maymun) bring out why she loved it then, here is what she said:
and I so completely disagree about liking it because you are gay or an intellectual. In my mind the homosexuality was far from being used as a hook, because without it the movie would not have had the desperation that made it so tragic; for me it was the movie. A woman in the theatre beside us was quite literally sobbing as she left the theatre (with her husband), which I think is far from the response of someone who liked the film on purely an intellectual level.

The most painful part of the movie to me was sitting in the theatre with a bunch of (not so) closet homophobes who felt in order to prove once and for all that they are NOT GAY they had to "tsk, tsk" loudly, expel air through pursed lips or giggle like nervous school girls when there was ANY contact between the two men. And this is in Turkey, for god's sake, where hetero men quite happily walk hand in hand and kiss eachother in the street!

thank you!!

[quote user="lori" post="41711"]That's exactly why I loved it, because it was such a tragic love story (I'm a bit of a masochist that way). I understand how you feel, dekolte, about the cheating aspects of it [/quote]

what I know is you and me are amateur movie goers... by what we feel towards the character we are trying to seize the film, but ofcourse neither the characters of the movie or the landscape should determine the quality/award winning ability of a film. I am speaking my mind only to find out how my thinking about films is compared to others. In our kind of liking, it is actually a choice of taste, or a paralelism to our undertsandingh of life.

what I truely seek is to find out what makes a good film good.

so hanging around here some more...
although none of the big talkers convinced me yet to join their school.. we'll see...

AND WHATS NEXT? WHAT DO WE GO AND SEE?
oh and I am not going to go to the other gay film, capote... or the hostel... are there any other films left?

Basic Instinct 2? Good, clean, non-offensive, heterosexual fun. (OK, there is some homosexuality but it's the good kind: lesbians)

what I read in the internet is some scenes of Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct will be censored in the cinemas but be available at the DVD.

All the better for those shy onanists.

Saw the trailer for Basic Instinct 2 last night- looked total pants- am unlikely to watch it.

The trailer for Cassanova on the other hand looked quite amusing. Big, epic, swashbuckling and not taking itself too seriously.

Dekolte, Capote might be quite good...

Also soppily waiting for Ice Age 2.

[quote user="dekolte" post="41939"]
AND WHATS NEXT? WHAT DO WE GO AND SEE?[/quote]

Hi Dekolte,

JC mentioned 'Crash' - it may not be out still, but if you havn't watched it, that movie is VERY thrilling and definitely worth watching - although no need for a big screen, your dvd would do !
I also just bought the dvd of Ronin, with Robert Deniro and Jean Reno, an American flick filmed in France, and it is also quite spectacular (not because of the film location, but just because of the actors and the plot that unfolds and continues to unfold with one surprise after another...). Just simply awesome !

[quote user="Eiffel" post="42397"]
JC mentioned 'Crash' - it may not be out still, but if you havn't watched it, that movie is VERY thrilling and definitely worth watching - although no need for a big screen, your dvd would do !
[/quote]
eheh. actually it was me who took JC to crash I like going on the very first week if I can...
and Ronin, u are right. I really wanna see that!
and I am glad we're friends now.
Would like to meet you as well as the others new comers but I may need to do sth else on 7th. so maybe later.
anyway, are u following this thread?
I'd very much like to have your choice of quote too:
http://forum.expatinturkey.com/viewtopic.php?t=4015
thx!!

I saw Brokeback Mountain this weekend, and I found it, dare I say it, well, just a little bit... boring?

There was lots of talk about it, here, there, everywhere, and there was lots of buzz about the awards it did win, or it didn't win, I can't remember which one.

And then I finally saw it, and it was, just, well, kind of... boring, and normal, definitely residing in the fat part of movie history's bell curve.

It was a perfectly good movie, and if anyone asked me if they should see it, I would answer "yeah, sure". I just don't think it delivered much in the "Special Movie" department.

I felt the same way about Crash, though, and I think Crash also enjoyed some time on the "Special Movie" throne.

I guess I just pre-bought into the hype and buzz too much, on both movies.

Matt

[quote user="dekolte" post="42400"]
Would like to meet you as well as the others new comers but I may need to do sth else on 7th. so maybe later.
anyway, are u following this thread?
I'd very much like to have your choice of quote too:
http://forum.expatinturkey.com/viewtopic.php?t=4015
thx!![/quote]
Well, quite frankly, I've been catching up on movies @ home because I've missed so many films on screen for so many years... and I'm quite behind ! And besides, I do not have a good memory for words, so movie quotes generally speaking are not my forte. As for love quotes, hmmm...
I'm more sensitive to songs, personally... 'Somebody' by Depeche Mode was my all-time favorite for years, although Creep by RadioHead is pretty awesome now...
Anyways, won't blabber too much here cuz it's off subject, so hope you can make it on the 7th!
Ciao !